"BrtStlnd" (BrtStlnd)
10/14/2015 at 11:58 • Filed to: Dolla Bills Y'all | 3 | 35 |
I was inspired to share this by Tyler’s Foxtrot Alpha pieces that call out debate bullshit on both sides. Facts are always your friend, and around election time there is always a lot of squawking on where our government is wasting money and where that money should be going.
Well, here’s how our money was spent last year. Take it for what you will.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:01 | 0 |
wonder how much larger that is compared to other countries
BrtStlnd
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
10/14/2015 at 12:02 | 0 |
Tough to see what you’re highlighting, military or debt service?
Party-vi
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:03 | 5 |
Nice to see we spend more on interest for our debt than on Vets and education combined.
HammerheadFistpunch
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:03 | 3 |
This is an interesting info-graphic but its not telling the whole truth...not quite. It appears as if the military is our biggest spending vehicle and it technically is, but its not our largest financial obligation. Medicare and Medicaid is, by HUGE margins. i.e. we are only putting 26.5 cents of the tax dollar towards it but its more than half of our unfunded obligations, its bigger than the national debt even. Meaning we are committed to spending the money we don’t have.
As nice as it would be to be spending less money on the military, its the healthcare system that needs to be fixed.
ttyymmnn
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:04 | 1 |
Yay education! My god, that’s pathetic.
Party-vi
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
10/14/2015 at 12:04 | 2 |
Military? Enormous. Which is why we remain unfuckwithable. Chart is apparently from 2012.
Sneaky Pete
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:05 | 1 |
Yet none of the front runner candidates even acknowledge the debt...
spanfucker retire bitch
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:05 | 1 |
Those numbers can differ pretty wildly depending on who you ask. Penn & Teller did a good episode of Bullshit! back when that show was on about how - why it’s true that numbers don’t lie - they can be manipulated. One of the segments was exactly this - cutting up where exactly each of our tax dollars goes to. Two different analysts gave two different responses.
BrtStlnd
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/14/2015 at 12:06 | 0 |
Absolutely, the 26.5 cents is just what we’re currently allocating from receipts to fund the shortfall.
BrtStlnd
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:08 | 7 |
U-S-A!
U-S-A!
U-S-A!
EL_ULY
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:09 | 0 |
welp, I ain’t getting any of that shit lol :]
djmt1
> Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
10/14/2015 at 12:09 | 1 |
Here is the UK. So yeah, a lot larger, 5x % wise.
HammerheadFistpunch
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:09 | 0 |
yeah and its not enough, not by a long shot. The thing that worries me isn’t the amount we spend on defense, as so many people like to argue, its the money we have already spent but don’t have. Sure, it would probably be best if we didn’t buy so many toys with our paycheck each month but that money, as a proportion of our income, doesn’t worry me as much as the MASSIVE credit card debt and IOU’s we’ve amassed. Those are the real scary things.
spanfucker retire bitch
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:12 | 5 |
Education? You mean that thing this country DEFINITELY doesn’t need?
The GOP just halted the bill in the Senate that would have re-upped the Perkins Federal subsidized education loan. It’s dead, Jim. The oldest federal student loan program in the country is dead.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:15 | 0 |
Dam cropped wrong; military
Milky
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:15 | 2 |
Yay ridiculous spending!
Hell even if we JUST matched the top ten other countries we could put 30 billion towards something else.
*waits for “YOU DONT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS?!” response.
Party-vi
> spanfucker retire bitch
10/14/2015 at 12:20 | 10 |
Stop whining. Students can use their bootstraps to pay for tuition. Or something.
Supreme Chancellor and Glorious Leader SaveTheIntegras
> Milky
10/14/2015 at 12:21 | 2 |
How many v6 mustangs would that buy?
T5Killer
> Milky
10/14/2015 at 12:24 | 2 |
Granted a lot of the reason other nations military budget are so small compared to the US is they have usually buy off the shelf equipment where the US foots the bill on R&D costs, plus comparing a nations GDP in relation to how much they spend on defense would be a fairer comparison since the US is always 2nd or 1st depending on the year.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:26 | 2 |
I don’t have bootstraps. Hell, I don’t even have boots!
Party-vi
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
10/14/2015 at 12:26 | 3 |
Well then you’re fucked. And not even proper-fucked.
/Tommy’d
shop-teacher
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 12:30 | 1 |
Quick, before zeee German’s get here.
TractorPillow
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 12:30 | 0 |
This is great and pretty neat, if accurate. I wish I could see our military’s budget broken down like this.
BrtStlnd
> TractorPillow
10/14/2015 at 12:35 | 0 |
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/strau…
Milky
> T5Killer
10/14/2015 at 13:02 | 0 |
Or you could go by percentage.
5% of the world’s population & 37% of the worlds military spending.
Santiago of Escuderia Boricua
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
10/14/2015 at 13:03 | 0 |
It literally means impossible:
“The term appears to have originated in the early 19th century United States (particularly in the phrase “pull oneself over a fence by one’s bootstraps”), to mean an absurdly impossible action”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootstrap…
wiffleballtony
> Party-vi
10/14/2015 at 13:29 | 1 |
Just give it some more time and it’ll be the biggest.
themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 13:50 | 0 |
I want to see a version of this where we can see the F-35’s development costs apart from the military budget.
norskracer98-ExploringTheOutback
> BrtStlnd
10/14/2015 at 14:38 | 0 |
Welp...
(Energy and Environment.)
facw
> ttyymmnn
10/14/2015 at 22:57 | 0 |
Education hasn’t traditionally been federally funded. Most spending comes from the state and local level, which is of course a bad deal for poor states/communities.
ttyymmnn
> facw
10/14/2015 at 23:07 | 1 |
You needn’t remind me. I live in TX, where we rank 39th in the country in education. Forty-four percent of students attend private school, and if the government had its way, that number would be 100 percent.
gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
> HammerheadFistpunch
10/14/2015 at 23:49 | 0 |
healthcare is screwed until people acknowledge that
A) healthcare is really expensive
B) We’re all going to die eventually
28% of healthcare in a persons lifetime is spent on the last 6 months of life. You can’t keep basing on it from 40 years ago when cancer was a death sentence and people lived to 70.
The only discussion was quickly “killed” when the whole death panel myth was being spread and the who idea was thrown out.
And then there is the whole cost of prescription drugs. You can’t say you want capitalism and cheap healthcare.
HammerheadFistpunch
> gmporschenut also a fan of hondas
10/14/2015 at 23:59 | 0 |
Sure I can. The healthcare organization I work for is tracking at CPI+1 and with consistently high outcomes. It can be done, its just not being done most places.
You can tell a Finn but you can't tell him much
> BrtStlnd
10/15/2015 at 13:45 | 0 |
I would be more curious to see how many dollars the federal government spends for every dollar it takes in.
EDIT: And by curious I mean morbidly curious.
dogisbadob
> BrtStlnd
12/17/2015 at 12:08 | 0 |
Take 15c of this and put:
5c towards veterans’ benefits
2c towards healthcare
2c towards transportation
2c towards education
2c towards food/agriculture
1c towards paying off the debt
1c towards science